Saturday, 8 September 2012

The Sins of Jesus (Part 1)

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The Sins of Jesus (Part 1)

Bismillah Hir Rehman Ir Raheem
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We Often heard Christian claiming that Jesus was sinless. Let us proof them from their own Bible that Jesus was a sinner.
Note : The passages are only from Christian sources and doesn't include and Muslim sources or concepts.

In John 8:4-11 Jesus went against God’s rules on adultery

Jesus himself did not believe that he was sinless, we will also show that Jesus himself did not believe that he was perfect like God, once doing so it shall debunk this Christian argument to prove the deity of Jesus Christ. We shall first see that Jesus did not believe he was sinless, and this comes from the Gospel of John, chapter 8, the story concerns the Pharisees bringing a lady caught in adultery, and the story goes as follows:

"Teacher, they said, This woman has been caught in the very act of adultery.
Now Moses in the Law commanded us that such [women—offenders] shall be stoned to death. But what do You say [to do with her—what is Your sentence]?
This they said to try (test) Him, hoping they might find a charge on which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger.
However, when they persisted with their question, He raised Himself up and said, Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.
Then He bent down and went on writing on the ground with His finger.
They listened to Him, and then they began going out, conscience-stricken, one by one, from the oldest down to the last one of them, till Jesus was left alone, with the woman standing there before Him in the center of the court.
When Jesus raised Himself up, He said to her, Woman, where are your accusers? Has no man condemned you?
She answered, No one, Lord! And Jesus said, I do not condemn you either. Go on your way and from now on sin no more."

So take note of what happens, the Jews wanted to stone this lady according to the Mosaic law, however so Jesus for some reason tells them that the person without sin should cast the first stone, and this is the crucial point, notice Jesus tells them that he who is without sin cast the first stone, and non of them do it since they are all sinners, but notice that Jesus himself does not cast a stone neither! Hence this means that Jesus too is a sinner, since had he been without sin he would have been stoning her as God commands for such a punishment, but notice he says that he too does not condemn her, and he lets her go, all of this means that Jesus too is sinless.

Now a Christian might reply back by saying well Jesus didn't stone her because Jesus was all about love and forgiveness, he was bringing a new message, well such a response is very weak for two reasons.
(A) This response is from silence, there is no evidence for it, the context of the story is clear, Jesus tells the one without the sinner to cast the stone, no one does including himself, hence he too is a sinner, saying he didn't stone her because of compassion and a new message is not shown anywhere in the context, Jesus could have easily said I wont stone you because I have brought a new way, he says no such thing.
(B) Jesus himself stated that he came NOT to break the law, hence if Jesus isn't breaking the law this means he must carry it out, not say I am bringing something new, because if he is bringing something new that doesn't punish an adulteress by stoning then that means that the law has been broken since that is what it calls for!

Jesus was refer as drunked and a friend of sinners

Matthew 11:19 states
"The Son of man (Jesus) came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold, a gluttonous man and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners! And wisdom is justified by her works."
In some versions Jesus is refer to as being Drunk

According to some passages of Bible drinking alcohol is a sin!

"And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess" (Ephesians 5:18 KJV)

"Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty" (Proverbs 23:20-21 KJV)

So It is very vlear from the above verses that Jesus against the Bible law and become Drunk or a Winebiber

Being Drunk Is a Sin According to some Christian

Drinking ! A sin for Christian

Jesus was Baptized according to Bible

First we will see what Baptism is. According to top class dictionaries and even According to Christian concepts and according to Gosples Baptism getting free from sins and it is clearly stated in Gospels for example Mark 16:16 states that whoever is baptized will be saved

Jesus was Baptied too that means he got free from sins he had done. Luke 3:21 states Jesus getting baptized

"When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too..."

As you can see, Jesus was baptized, and we earlier read that baptism was to make the people repent from their sins, to be born again. This obviously means that Jesus was a sinner, which is why he got baptized, to cleanse himself of sin, and to be born again. Sinless people don't get baptized

I would Also Like to support my argument with Nicene Creed which states the following:
But let me tell you what is Nicene Creed it is
A formal statement of Christian belief widely used in Christian liturgies, adopted at the first Council of Nicaea in 325 and became official orthodox Christianity in the fourth century, and according to the Nicene Creed it states the following:

"We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen."
Source : http://www.carm.org/creeds/nicene.htm

So the Nicene Creed AFFIRMED that baptism was for the forgiveness of sins, this therefore makes Jesus a SINNER, as he was baptized!

So we can see that Jesus was a sinner according to Bible. Keep up to date the part two on "Sins of Jesus will be coming soon"

Allah Knows Best.





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